Echo Company 2/7
Vietnam Veterans Chapter
1ST
Marine Division Association
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Two-Seven Tooter
Message Board
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THE ALAMO CHAPTER
WELCOMES THE 63RD ANNUAL 1ST
MARINE DIVISION ASSOCIATION
REUNION IN SAN ANTONIO.
AUGUST
23-29.
Our 2010 San
Antonio Reunion
is shaping up to
be the best
ever. Big thanks
go out to Ed
"Tex" Stiteler
and his fellow
Marines in the
San Antonio
Chapter of the
FMDA for all
their hard work
this past year.
We're expecting
a great crowd as
usual. This
is our once a
year gathering
to reunite and
share that bond
that only we can
know.
Come join us for an
enjoyable time.
Here's
a link to the hotel's
web site
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Famous Quotes |
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"I have only two men out of
my company and twenty out of some
other company. We need support, but
it is almost suicide to try to get
it here as we are swept by machine
gun fire and a constant barrage is
on us. I have no one on my left and
only a few on my right. I will
hold."
~ 1st Lt. Clifton B. Gates,
USMC, in Belleau Wood, 19 July,
1918
* Clifton B. Gates is one of
the few officers of any
service who had commanded a
platoon, a company, a
battalion, a regiment, and a
division under fire. He
served as the 19th
Commandant of the Marine
Corps from January, 1948,
until January, 1952.
"Some people
spend an entire lifetime
wondering if they made a
difference in the world.
But, the Marines don't have
that problem."
~ U.S. President
Ronald Reagan, 1985
"Can you imagine being
in a country with 500,000
brothers. How lucky can someone
be?"
~ Bobbie "The Weather
Girl" Keith, 1967
The young American woman
who took to the air to
report the weather - and
stole the hearts - of
thousands of GIs during
the Vietnam War
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A Blast from the Past-
Remember the "woobie blanket"??
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A poncho liner (woobie
blanket) is a piece of field
gear which originated in the
United States Marine Corps.
It was intended to provide
warmth in mild temperatures
used as an expedient
sleeping bag when attached
to the standard issued
poncho by means of integral
lengths of material which
are looped through the
poncho's eyelets.
Troops
generally hold the poncho liner
in high regard, as a very useful
piece of equipment, light and
packable yet reasonably warm.
Some Marines refer to the poncho
liner as a "woobie" showing the
same attachment an infant has
for it's comfort blanket. The
poncho liner found acceptance
amongst many US troops in
Vietnam, providing just enough
warmth for cool tropical nights
but light and small. But the
fact is most Marines didn't
carry it along simply because of
the added weight on the hump.
Q: Where
did Marines in Vietnam sleep
during the war?
A:
US Marine Infantrymen
in Vietnam slept on the ground.
Rarely did they dig holes,
except when they were drawing
fire or had drawn fire earlier.
Then they'd dig! The reason
"grunts" didn't like to dig
holes (foxholes) is because they
moved so much. As soon as grunts
dug a hole, they were ordered to
move out again! They'd get fed
up, and just sleep on the
ground; rolled up in their
poncho or poncho liner and not
dig. Unless Top said so.
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"Ready for
Anything
Counting on Nothing"
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15 August 2010
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USMC "Kit Carson" Scouts
from foe
to friend
The Kit Carson Scouts (Hồi
Chánh Viên in Vietnamese),
loosely translated as "members
who have returned to the
righteous side" belonged to a
special program created by the
U.S. Marine Corps during the
Viet Nam War involving the use
of former Viet Cong combatants.
The Kit Carson Scout Program was
started in 1966 when Staff
Sergeant Johnson, USMC, of 5th
CIT (counterintelligence team)
recruited two former Viet Cong (Hồi
Chánh Viên or Chiêu Hồi) to work
with U.S.
Marine infantry troops in a
program proposed to and agreed
on by Major General Nickerson,
the commanding officer in Viet
Nam of the 1st Marine Division.
L/Cpl James Zalpis and
Echo 2/7 Company Scout - August
1966
Kit Carson Scouts were former
Vietcong guerrillas who had
"rallied" to the government,
frequently under the Chieu Hoi
program, and who were willing to
act as scouts for U.S. units.
New scouts would be closely
watched and observed with
suspicion, for they could not
always be trusted. Some
"rallied" only to work for the
Vietcong as spies or to
lead Marine patrol units into
traps, although most were very
reliable, risking and often
losing their lives for the units
they served. As a result, good
Kit Carson Scouts were highly
prized and treated accordingly
by their units.
Echo Company traveled
with scouts and interpreters
Echo Company 2/7 brought along
scouts and interpreters on
almost every operation and many
patrols.
They had familiarity with the
terrain and culture, understood
Vietcong tactics in establishing
ambushes, and could identify
booby traps. They also
recognized Vietcong base and
assembly areas from indicators
Americans did not notice.
Lastly, Kit Carson Scouts were
able to identify Vietcong
collaborators in villages as
well as Vietcong masquerading as
civilians.
Viet Cong and North
Vietnamese soldiers
were encouraged to
desert by these "chieu
hoi" (Open Arms)
leaflets that
were airdropped in
areas we didn't
control. The
majority of early
Kit Carson Scouts
defected to the
South Vietnamese
government forces
and became Hoi Chanh
Vien primarily
because they
suffered either from
malaria or grave
wounds beyond what
could be medically
treated by the
rudimentary medical
care available on
the Viet Cong/NVA
side. Most had a
distrust of
Vietnamese soldiers
and interpreters
because of the
degree to which
friendly forces had
been infiltrated by
enemy agents, so it
was imperative that
their handlers be
Vietnamese speaking
Americans. Some of
those who came over
became scouts and
translators for our
Marine battalion.
We called
them "Kit
Carson" scouts.
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Marine Corps
Acronyms and Expressions |
Here is
a list of acronyms, expressions,
jargon, military slang, and sayings in
common used in the United States Marine
Corps. Many of the words or phrases have
varying levels of acceptance among
different units, and some also have
varying levels of appropriateness
(usually dependent on how senior the
user is in rank).
(did you know we had that many?)
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First Marine Corps Officer |
Samuel
Nicholas (1744 - 27 August 1790) was
the first officer commissioned in
the United States Continental
Marines (now the United States
Marine Corps) and by tradition is
considered to be the first
Commandant of the Marine Corps. On 5
November 1775, Nicholas was
commissioned a "Captain of Marines"
by the Second Continental Congress.
His pay was $32 a month. Three
ships in the United States Navy have
been named USS Nicholas in his
honor.
Biography and Military Service
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The
Navy Cross
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Awarded by Department of the
Navy
Navy Cross: This
is the highest Medal that can be
awarded by the Department of the
Navy / Headquarters Marine Corps. To
get a Navy Cross, essentially you
must do something, during a war,
that is recognized as a completely
selfless and life threatening
act. It must involve saving others
as well. This should be SUPREME
heroism on the level with the
Congressional Medal of Honor. The
difference between the Cross and the
CMH is purely political. Most
crosses are awarded posthumously.
For a complete detailed reference on
this medal click
here.
Recipients of the Navy Cross in the
Vietnam War
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Nautical Terms |
Many
of the Marine Corps customs are derived
from the many years of service afloat.
Even ashore Marines customarily use
nautical terms. Floors are "decks,"
walls are "bulkheads," ceilings,
"overheads," corridors, "passageways."
The orders "Gangway!" and "Make a
hole!" are used to clear the way for an
officer ashore, just as it is
afloat. Among other terms in common
usage are: "two-block" -to tighten or
center (as a necktie); "square-away" -
to correctly arrange articles or to take
in hand and direct an individual;"
"head" - a bathroom; "scuttle-but" -a
drinking fountain, also an unconfirmed
rumor. In the Marine Corps, the
nautical expression "Aye, Aye, Sir" is
used when acknowledging a verbal order.
"Yes, Sir" and "No, Sir" are used in
answer to direct questions. "Aye, Aye,
Sir" is not used in answer to questions
as this expression is reserved solely
for acknowledgement of orders.
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How much did
the Vietnam War cost? |
The Vietnam war cost the US for one year was over $85 million. The total cost of the war was around $140 billion. But the lives that were lost cost so much more. The real cost of the Vietnam War? For 58,000 Americans it cost them everything: The chance to ever see their families again, their chance to have a future, their chance to laugh, to cry, to have kids and grandkids, the chance to work at a job and experience life - all gone.
For those of us who survived: The nights when you wake up with a flashback when you can still smell burning flesh or remember blood that splattered, the terrible stomach problems that you endure because of Agent Orange, the PTSD that makes people around you wonder what is wrong with you, and the limp you have because a wound. The real cost of the war? Far beyond $140 Billion.
One finds in Vietnam Veterans very little bitterness about the war in which they fought. The most common regret, almost to a man, is that they were not able to do more - for each other and for the people they came to help. Such valor epitomizes the conduct of Americans at war from the first days of our existence.
Semper Fi,
Echo Company 2/7 Vietnam
Veterans Chapter
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