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It's never
too early to
start
planning for
the 2010
Reunion in
San Antonio
Texas.
THE
ALAMO
CHAPTER
WELCOMES THE
63RD ANNUAL
1ST
MARINE
DIVISION
ASSOCIATION
REUNION
AUGUST
23-29, 2010
Camp
Pendleton Anniversary
Most of you know
that Force
Levels are in
flux due to
emerging
requirements in
South West Asia.
The Division is
doing its best
to fight 2 wars
and still host
an abbreviated
Anniversary
celebration here
at Camp
Pendleton from
1-3 February
2010. Support
our Marines! For
complete
information and
itinerary
contact
oldbreed@sbcglobal.net
The
2010
FMDA Business
Meeting
will be held
at the
Guesthouse
Inn, Oceanside,
CA 0800-1200
Monday
February 1,
2010. Our
Chapter
Representative
will be in
attendance
and report
back on all
topics and
issues.
MARK
YOUR
CALENDAR
1st
Marine
Division
Association
Golf
Tournament
Once a
Marine,
always a
Marine!!
Mark your
calendar for
20 February
2010!!
First Marine
Division
Association
Golf
Tournament
Saturday,
February 20,
2010
Hosted by:
First Marine
Division
Association
Contact
Jerry Bakke
at:
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Famous Quotes |
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"The
willingness
with
which
our
young
people
are
likely
to
serve
in
any
war...shall
be
directly
proportional
as
to
how
they
perceive
the
Veterans
of
earlier
wars
were
treated
and
appreciated
by
their
nation."
~ General George Washington, 1789 "And when you have served among good people, fellow Marines, some of whom you came to love with the same intensity as you do your own family, there are few others you will meet in your lifetime who can ever gain that same level of trust and respect."
~
Senator
Jim
Webb,
"A
Time
to
Fight."
"A good Marine goes home every night with two important things intact; his Honor and his Integrity." ~ Unknown
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Echo Company 2/7
Memorial Monument |
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88 Fallen Hero's of E
2/7
The
Memorial Fund
has made great
progress again this
month and now totals
over $29,210!!
We are very close to
achieving our goal.
To everyone that has
contributed we thank
you. It's an
extraordinary
feeling to see
Marines making this
commitment to our
fallen brothers.
Semper Fi,
The Monument
Committee
Donate & More Info
Here!!
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Combat Area Casualties
Vietnam War |
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Military
Service Branch Number of
Records:
Air Force 2,584
Army 38,209 Coast
Guard 7 Marine Corps
14,838 Navy 2,555
Total 58,193
Did
you know??
Country of
Casualty Number of
Records
Cambodia 520 Laos
733 North Vietnam
1,124 Communist
China 10 South
Vietnam 55,629
Thailand 177
Total 58,193
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We would like to
announce the Grand
Opening of a new
E-commerce website,
www.usmarine-onceandalways.com.
USMarine-OnceandAlways.com
provides pride
apparel and a
growing catalog of
products for
Marines. 1/5
Vietnam Veterans,
Echo 2/7 Vietnam
Veterans, and
members of BOC Class
5-67 can find their
custom logo products
here and support the
group's fundraising
with your
purchases.
Semper Fidelis!
Nicholas Warr
U. S. Marine -
Once & Always
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Vietnam War
Videos |
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The video camera of 1967 was not like as today's. Surprisingly, after all these years, these videos are crisp and clear telling a story about everyday life in E 2/7.
Film by PFC Thomas D. Jones of E2/7 Base Camp at the Lien Chieu Esso Depot in 1967.
Film by Captain Martin C. Higgins of Echo Company 2/7 Base Camp at the Lien Chieu Esso Depot in 1967.
All movies are compliments of our Chapter Secretary Jimmy Clendennen. Thank you Jimmy.... The footage will give you insights that you cannot find anywhere else. Visit JimmyFormerMarine's Channel on YouTube for more videos taken during the Vietnam War.
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Draft Lottery Capsules |
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What's Your
Number?
During the
Vietnam War,
young men
gathered in
college dorms
and friends'
homes to listen
to live TV and
radio broadcasts
of the U.S.
Selective
Service System
drawing lottery
numbers to
determine who
would and would
not be
drafted. 366
blue plastic
capsules
contained the
birthdays that
would be chosen
in the first
Vietnam draft
lottery drawing
on December 1,
1969. The first
birth date drawn
that night,
assigned the
lowest number,
"001," was
September 14.
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Web Site Aims to
Uncover Fakers in
Fatigues |
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Military impostors,
beware: A Web site has
been launched to root
out fraudulent veterans
and fakers in fatigues.
ReportStolenValor.org
aims to expose
people who fabricate or
embellish military
accomplishments by
making it easier to
report suspected Stolen
Valor Act offenders to
federal authorities and
local media outlets.
AMVETS, an organization
representing more than
250,000 veterans,
unveiled the site.
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"Ready
for Anything
Counting on Nothing"
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15 January 2010
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Operation Meade
River
took place
in the "Dodge City"
area of Quang Nam
Province
Called Dodge
City by
Marines
because of
its shoot-em-up
characteristics,
the area 10
miles south
of Da Nang
was familiar
ground for
the Marines.
It was about
five miles
wide and
three miles
long. It was
low ground,
says the
official
Marine Corps
history,
crisscrossed
with rivers
and streams,
honeycombed
with caves
and tunnels;
each hamlet,
with its
bamboo and
thorn hedges
and its
drainage
ditches
indistinguishable
from
fighting
trenches,
was a
potential
fortified
position.
The major
battles of
Operation
Meade River
would take
place in the
two-square-mile
center of
Dodge City.
Intelligence
had
determined
that
remaining
elements of
the
decimated VC
Doc Lap
Battalion,
which had
operated in
the area
against the
Marines for
more than
three years,
along with
other under
strength VC
units and
several
hundred NVA
(North
Vietnamese
Army)
troops, were
again
massing in
the area.
Going
northward
through
Dodge City
were two
major enemy
infiltration
routes used
by the NVA
to supply
and assist
the VC in
the rocket
belt, whose
main
objective
had been,
and
continued to
be, the
destruction
of the Da
Nang
airstrip.
Many enemy
soldiers
were rapidly
staging in
the area.
On November
20, 1968, at
4 a.m.,
Operation
Meade River
commenced.
The monsoons
for this
part of
Vietnam had
started in
October.
Temperatures
were
dropping,
and the
Marines
often found
the nights
cold. The
conditions
were
miserable,
and the
rains,
averaging
one inch
daily, added
to the
misery.
On
November
22, Echo
Company
2/7,
tried to
maneuver
its way
across
the
river
into the
what was
called
the
Horseshoe,
because
of the
large
bend in
the
river,
but the
volume
of enemy
fire was
too
heavy. E
2/7 took
many
causalities.
The 11th
Marine
Artillery
carried
out
precision
destruction
missions
against
the
enemy
positions
during
the
remainder
of the
22nd. On
November
23, the
objective
area was
secured.
The
Horseshoe
contained
a multi
bunkered
complex
of
fighting
holes
and
trench
lines
that had
apparently
been a
battalion
defensive
position.
Many of
the
bunkers
had been
constructed
by
civilians
and
enemy
soldiers
using
railroad
ties
removed
from
under
the
remaining
tracks
of the
Vietnam
North
South
Railroad.
After
the
Horseshoe
was
secured
by E 2/7
and Delta
Company
1/1
which
was
attached
to 2/7
to
provide
security
for engineers who were
lifted
in
to blow
over 107
enemy
bunkers
and
level
the
fortified
positions.
Many
bodies
were
found in
the
bunkers
in
addition
to a
great
deal of
equipment
and
field
gear and
thousands
of
rounds
of
ammunition.
Also
uncovered
were
many
sacks of
lime and
lime
sprayers
used by
the
enemy to
sanitize
and
hasten
the
decomposition
of dead
bodies.
According
to
the
2/7
Command
Chronology
for
November
1968,
Echo
Company
2/7
took
heavy
fire
with 5
men
killed
and
23
wounded
"in
about
ten
minutes".
True
American
Hero's
"40 years ago .....To all those Marines lost that day you are remembered and in my prayers; for all those who still have nightmares, you are in my thoughts today. That day 40 years ago my husband was a young 24 year old Lt with Echo 2/7. They lost a lot of Marines at the horseshoe trying to cross the river".
Nancy Menagh Service, Marine Corps
Status, Veteran - Spouse
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Operation Meade River -
DECLASSIFIED |
Declassified document
direct
from the
Top:
Headquarters,
2nd
Battalion,
7th
Marines,
This document
lists more
than name
and dates of
the
operation.
It lists out
every
officer, company,
supporting
forces, and
close air
support
units
engaged in
Operation
Meade River.
It lists
intelligence
findings,
weather,
terrain and
the mission,
and in
detail
describes
the battle
activities of
Echo Company
2/7, among
the many
other
Companies
that
participated
in Operation
Meade River.

Now this
unclassified
document is your
for the reading.
See the actual
of number of
KIA's, wounded,
captured, and
more. See
weapons
captured,
equipment,
structures and
bunkers. See a
re-supply
request list,
and a surprising
Commander's
Analysis where
he assails the
problem of
refusal of air
support to
deliver
ordinance while
his troops are
pinned down.
This 16
page document
Combat After
Action
Report shows
the scale of
Operation Meade
River, one of
the largest
operations of
the Vietnam War.
SOURCE:
Command
Chronologies
of 2nd
Battalion,
7th Marine
Regiment for
the Vietnam
War,
1965-70,
United
States
Marine Corps
History
Division,
MCB
Quantico,
Virginia.
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OFFICIAL RECORD -
Operation Meade River |
This is
a report based
on the official
record of BLT
2/7 for
Operation Meade
River D+2 /
November 22,
1968. Operation
Meade River D+2
could be called
"An LZ Too Far"
because E/2/7's
mission was to
secure an LZ for
D/1/1 when they
were ambushed by
NVA.
On D+2
Company D
(1st
Battalion,
1st Marine
Regiment)
was to make
a helicopter
borne
assault to
attack
Objective 5.
Company E
(BLT 2/7)
was to
provide a
base of fire
for Company
D. While
moving
across
the river in
the vicinity
of AT981600,
Company E
came under
heavy
accurate
small arms
and
automatic
weapons fire
from snipers
in a tree
line
approximately
100 meters
away. Six
Marines and
one Corpsman
were KIA and
23 were WIA
in about ten
minutes.
Among those
wounded was
the Company
Commander
(Captain
Nelson) who
was later
evacuated.
Contact was
broken and
the wounded
were
returned to
the north
side of the
river.
Communications
were
maintained
during most
of this
contact.
The
planned
helicopter
lift of
Company D to
attack
Objective 5
was
cancelled.
Instead,
this unit
approached
overland
from
AT994607 to
the vicinity
of AT992597.
From this
point the
company
crossed the
river and
commenced
the attack
on Objective
5. As the
company
advanced it
was taken
under heavy
small arms
fire,
mortar, and
automatic
weapons fire
at a range
of
approximately
400 meters.
This fire
came from
the vicinity
of AT985596
and
AT986599.
Two Marines
were KIA, 15
were WIA,
and two were
WIANE. The
company was
forced to
withdraw to
the vicinity
of AT989597
to establish
a secure LZ.
Communications
were
maintained
during most
of this
contact;
however, two
of the
casualties
were the
TACP radio
operator and
the BLT
tactical net
radio
operator.
This slowed
down
communications
considerably,
as the FO
had to
operate both
the air and
artillery
radios.
Medevac
helicopters
received
heavy fire
when they
attempted to
land and
were forced
to abort the
mission.
Just after
dark another
attempt was
made to
evacuate the
casualties.
In spite of
sniper fire
the most
serious
casualties
were
evacuated at
this time.
Company
D remained
in a
perimeter
defense for
the night. A
flare ship
and "Spooky"
were on
station
throughout
the night.
Companies E,
F, G and H
maintained
the cordon
in their
positions
during the
day and
night of D+2
and D+3.
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Operation Meade River -
Ambush on Echo 2/7 |
A first hand
account
Here is an email
from Chico
Zamora giving an
account of
Operation Meade
River. Zamora
was a Squad
Leader in 1st
Plt. E/2/7 at
the time.
There was an
area near hill
55 called Dodge
City. It was
called Doge City
because the
enemy controlled
the entire area
and flew their
flag there.
Meade River was
a small river
that ran through
the city. It was
decided that we
would pull an
operation in
Dodge City to
take controll
of the city and
destroy the
enemy hence
OPERATION Meade
River.
The plan of the
operation was
to box in the
city with
friendly troops
North, South,
East and West.
Troops on the
east and west
side of the box
would remain
stationary while
the troops on
the North and
South side of
the box would
move toward each
other flushing
the enemy. This
was supposed to
be a Marine OP
but we were told
that the Army,
Royal Korean
Marines, and
ARVN's assisted
on this
operation.
Echo Co was
initially
assigned to
guard the
Col. We kicked
off the
operation from
some desolate
road North of
Hill 55 at about
7am and
immediatly made
contact with the
enemy. They were
waiting for us.
They set up a
pretty effective
ambush and
slowed us down.
The contact
lasted about 15
or 20 minuets.
We probalbly
moved aboout 1/2
a click from the
road we started
from. At about 4
or 5pm that same
day we were
ordered to dig
in right where
we stood. That
nite we were on
100% alert and
the enemy probed
our lines all
nite long.
The next
morning Echo Co
was
reassigned from
guarding the
Col. to the west
side of the box
which meant that
we were the
hunters and we
would be
initating
contact and
flushing out the
enemy. We moved
out about 8am
and came upon
the river at its
fork. Echo CO
Cpt Nelson sent
1st Plt down
river and find a
place to cross.
1st squad and
2nd squad went
in oposite
directions. We
found a place to
cross about 300
yards from the
Batallion. It
took us a while
to find the
crossing and the
Cpt knew that
the Col was
pissed that it
took us so long,
and we were
behind in
meeting our
objectives. Echo
Co dug
in parrallel to
the river in
order with
weapons Plt
between 1st and
2nd squad. That
nite we took in
a lot of small
arms fire as the
enemy was trying
to get out of
the box. That
nite ECHO Co 1st
Plt took one
casulty, Cpl
Breslin (shot in
the Jaw).
The next
morning Cpt
Nelson was
visibaly pissed
and ordered
weapons plt to
saddle up and
told Lt Menagh
(1st Plt Co)
that he was
crossing the
river "here" and
that 1st squad
1st Plt was to
follow weapons.
The Capt pulled
out his .45 and
lead the
crossing, he
went down the
bank cross the
river and up the
bank with
weapons
following. It
seems that the
enemy waited for
the last man
from weapons to
reach the top of
the bank because
they were all
trapped. The
enemy closed the
ambush and
opened up on
weapons and the
CO. My squad was
on the other
bank waiting for
weapons to cross
so when the
enemy opened up
we didn't cross
but rather took
cover in the
trenches. We saw
and heard all
type of weapons
being fired at
Weapoms plt,
50's, 60's, RPG,
SKS, AKS. You
could see the
dirt churning as
the bullets hit
trees dirt and
anything in the
way pf those
50"s making that
sicking
thud shredding
anything it hit.
My squad was
closest to the
river and my
radio man gave
me the receiver
and a guy we
call sailor (he
was a corpsman)
was hollering
for me to get
across the river
and help them.
The Co Gunny
broke in and
told me to take
my squad across
the river and
assist. I told
my squad what
was up I told
them I was
taking point and
for them to
follow. As I
reached the top
of the bank my
radioman (he was
in the river)
hollered at me
and said the LT
was on the horn
and wanted to
talk to me asap.
Lt Menagh
ordered me not
to cross the
rivrer. I felt
like someone
shot warm blood
back into my
body, my heart
moved from my
throat back to
my chest. I
ordered my squad
to turn around
and get back
across the
river. As I got
on the bank of
the river right
behind me was
the CO. The left
side of his head
was covered in
blood and LT
Menagh consoled
him and had some
of the Plt
prepare to
MEDIVAC him. We
heard on our
radios the Col
telling all the
Plt Com not to
crosss the river
because he was
calling in air
strikes. Lt
Menagh told him
we still had
dead and wounded
troops across
the river. The
Col was adament
about the air
strike and
warned Lt Menagh
not to cross
that river. Lt
Menagh said to
us and the other
P Leaders "Bull
shit!. We
brought those
Marines over
here and by God
we are taking
them home". The
Lt asked for 5
volunteers and
advised of what
the Col had
ordered. He got
5 volunteers
right away -
Jesus Vakera aka
Pineapple, Reid,
Chico Alfaro,
Mike Todd, and
Davis. The plan
was we would
form a bucket
bragade between
both banks
throuogh the
river the Lt
would recover
bodies and drop
them in the
river to the
brigade, then we
would pass the
bodies to the
troops on the
other side for
medicvac. The Lt
made his run and
the enemy opened
up on him like a
shooting
gallery. The Lt
would find
someone and drag
that person to
the bank of the
river if they
were too heavy
for him he tied
then with a rope
and gave us the
end of the rope.
It was truely a
merical they
could not hit
him.
The Marines on
the safe side of
the river opened
up on the
oposite side to
provide the LT
with cover
fire. The Lt
brought back
dead and
wounded. I can't
tell you how
many the Lt
broought back
but I can tell
you we didnt
have a weapons
PLT for the
remainder of the
operation.
The Col
heard all that
firing and found
out he (Lt
Mengh) had
crossed the
river and he
went biserk
(anyone who has
a radio heard
the Col s
tirade-squad
leaders and
up). The Col
said he was
going to Court
Marshall LT
Menagh for
disbeying a
direct order,
insubordination,
and on and on.
You could
visulize the
Cols face and
that veins
sticking our to
his neck. The
other Lts of
Echo Co thought
that was not
fair, and the
troops also
voiced three
conserns, and so
they put LT
Menagh up for
the Medal Of
Honor. Well,
Marine politics
being the way
they are kinda
exonerated the
LT. The Court
Marshall was
cancelled by the
Medal Of Honor
nomination and
vice versa. That
nite we dug in
on the safe side
of the river,
F16's BBQed the
other side of
the river. A
Marine
batallion (can't
remember which
one )
pushed across
through us. We
finally crossed
the river toward
the burms that
was our
objective. All
that day
we fought for a
ville while we
sustained
casualties from
booby traps and
a sniper.
Bravo
(Weapons
Platoon)
crossed
first with
Company
Commander
Captain
Andrew
Nelson
leading the
way. 1st
Platoon
followed but
was ordered
back when
the ambush
started. The
CO got shot
somewhere in
the head but
he survived.
ALL OF BRAVO
WAS SHOT OR
WOUNDED. Lt.
Philip
Menagh 1st
Platoon
Commander was
simultaneously
put up for a
Court
Martial and
the Medal of
Honor (would
make a good
movie).
The above is
a brief
synopsis of
the events.
It's a real
interesting
story. I was
there with
1st Platoon
(squad
leader).
SEMPER FI!
CHICO
Here is
another account.
You get a pretty
good description
of what happened
from them.
After
1st platoon
walked across
the river and
were ambushed in
a 30 cal machine
gun crossfire,
Lt Mengh came
down from where
ever he was at
and told us all
we are ordered
to pull
back. With
wounded and dead
across the
river. Nobody
listened. In
fact we rebelled
and he went with
our wishes and
stayed with us
and went across
the river. Sgt.
Ball and my gun
team what was
left of it
positioned
ourselves
on some high
ground to see if
we could supply
cover fire for
1st platoon
still in deep
shit. We saw
steam coming up
from behind a
dike in front of
us a ways
away. We figured
it was the
barrel of one of
the crossfire
machine guns. We
called up
Seymour
(rockets) and he
took it out.
Semper Fi,
Kell
Note:
1st Lt.
Philip
Menagh took
command
after
Captain
Andrew
Nelson was
wounded
after saving
the lives of
the wounded.
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USMC Grunts - Hard Corps |
A Grunt can do anything
The Grunt's story can't be told in a few words. Ultimately, only those who lived it can really understand how it was, what happened, and why to dirt-eating grunts Vietnam was an endless succession of bummers.
Vietnam was uniquely horrible. There was much in common with hell holes in other wars -- World War II in the Pacific or Italy comes to mind. But Vietnam did include the fact that while men there were out facing death day after day, others at home where not only enjoying civilian life, they were denouncing the war and the soldiers fighting it. In the latter years of the war, when news came from back in the U.S.A. it was hard to swallow indeed.
Besides the never-ending fear of death, grunts had to endure a host of miseries: merciless humps through a sun-scorched landscape packing eighty pregnant pounds, brain-boiling heat, hot house humidity, dehydration, heat exhaustion, sunburn, red dust, torrential rains, boot-sucking mud, blood-sucking leeches, steaming jungles, malaria, dysentery, razor sharp elephant grass, bush sores, jungle rot, moaning and groaning, meals in green cans, armies of insects, fire ants, poisonous centipedes, mosquitoes, flies, bush snakes, vipers, scorpions, rats, boredom, incoming fire, booby traps, body bags, and a thousand more discomforts. Despite all this the grunt did his job well.
USMC Grunts have been making dead enemies out of live ones since 10 November 1775. That's when the Second Continental Congress decided (quite wisely) to raise two battalions of Marines. Nobody kills enemies of our country or destroys stuff better than USMC Grunts - hard corps.
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